Neil..." send me the identifier"?  
Ya lost me. But sure, if you've got done to rid yourself of, I'm in the market. Thanks

My issue is that I don't want to spend, well, any money, really, on experimenting with struts. 

I would but GoWesty's but I don't want to buy more from somewhere else the day after I get them in. 

I'm not sure about leverage, the angles, and all that.  But I can guess what the actual weight is, less the hatch itself. 
The tire is a 16" Nokia Rotiva on a van Cafe African steelie. 50lbs?
The hi-lift xtreme jack is 37. 
The jerry can full must be 60+
Then there's the Gary Lee rack with all of that and a 3/4 shelf. 

That equals, let's see....HEAVY!  

I may have a market locally for them if I find I can't use the first set. But that's a hSsle. Like typing on this phone. 

Thanks all

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> On Mar 29, 2017, at 12:39, Neil2 <vidublu@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> 
> I have about 7 new struts that look at first glance to be exactly like
> those in the link above from GW's site.  I can send you the identifier if
> you're interested.  I don't want to make any money on 'em.
> 
>> On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 9:05 PM, Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> My friend Simon bought some 1250 N struts from Germany for the similar
>> reason. They're great, lifts his spare tire rack and bike rack ( with tire
>> and bike) that I made for him.
>> 
>> Without anything on the hatch it's hard to close.
>> 
>> Unfortunately the German source has dried up, but I mention it so you will
>> know that 1250N is strong enough for a good load on hatch.
>> 
>> Oh, and before anyone asks, it's been almost three years now with the
>> struts and no adverse effect noted on the hatch.
>> 
>> I've been looking for similar struts but not found any yet.
>> 
>> Alistair
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 28, 2017, at 7:24 PM, Roman Haag <romanhaag@YMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I recently got a Gary Lee multipurpose rack, which has my spare, a gas
>> can, and a hi-lift jack on it.
>>> 
>>> I need some stronger struts and am having a hard time finding info about
>> them.  Does anyone hear have any experience with them and could possibly
>> recommend me some?
>>> 
>>> All of the GoWesty/Bus Depot ones sound good, but they don't really give
>> nay specific information.
>>> 
>>> I've found these but I'm not even sure they'll fit.  I know the Vanagon
>> ones compress to 11.75", as well.
>>> http://www.siraweb.com/gas-prop-c16-23835
>>> 
>>> Any help is appreciated.  I'd hate to be the guy responsible for our
>> local Vdub mechanic getting hurt by a hatchback ;)
>>> 
>>> Roman
>> 
> 
> 
> 
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